Posted: Oct 02, 2014 4:31 am
Shrunk wrote:This is rather amusing (courtesy of Jerry Coyne):
In a recent discussion on Uncommon Descent, (the webforum devoted to the purely scientific - and not at all religious, no sirree Bob! - concept of Intelligent Design), regarding the historicity of Jesus (a key biological concept, as we all know), someone touches on the very issue that we have have been discussing here:william spearshake wrote:Before anyone jumps all over me, I think that a rabbi existed who may fit the description of JC. But agreeing that he existed is not the same as saying that he is god.
There are plenty of chronological discrepancies in the biblical story. But, leaving that aside, what else do you have?
And, while you are at it, you can explain how UD is a supporter for ID without being religiously based.
Interesting question, which provokes a series of denials regarding the religion nature of the ID enterprise. However, in that regard, probably the most revealing comment is one that occurs just a few posts later. Actually, it's not the comment itself that is revealing, because that comment can no longer be read. What is revealing is the reason it can no longer be read:
Hmmm.....
There's no question ID is in bed with Christianity. Whenever I channel surf on the radio and hear anyone talking about ID, it's on a religious station. Today is a good example, Stephen Meyer was on Point of View. A religious radio broadcast. He was giving the usual ID talking points about DNA being a code, just like a programmer's code, no new mutations, and other glaringly IDiotic assertions, with a nudge, nudge, wink, wink to Christianity. When Christianity is brought up in the conversation, Stephen Meyer just rolls with it making no delineation between the "science" discussion and the religious discussion.
In case you think this was just a one time interview, here's a link to summary of a debate with theistic evolutionist Karl Giberson and ID proponent Stephen Meyer on the Point of View website.
"Should Christians Embrace Darwin?"
http://www.pointofview.net/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=26594&security=1&news_iv_ctrl=1201
Guess who POV is rooting for? A theistic evolutionist or an ID proponent who says, evolution is wrong, magic man did it?
This is what point of view is about
Point of View is a two-hour, issues-oriented live talk radio program heard daily nationwide. Kerby Anderson and the Point of View team cover the full spectrum of issues and current events that affect our faith, family, government, education, and basic freedoms from a Christian perspective