Posted: Apr 02, 2017 1:57 pm
Passer wrote:EDIT: Changed topic title
EDIT: My questions came from watching the first hour of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mvx8kW33OU&t=0s
What do you make of the following scientific claims found in the Bible?
FIFY.
Already false.
Some streams run to lakes, for example.
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but the sea is not full;
When is a sea full? What does that even mean?
Passer wrote: to the place where the streams flow,
there they flow again.
More nonsense.
Water circulates via evaporation and rain and not all of that rain comes from the same source that it deposits its water in.
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Did the people of the day know how all this worked?
As evidenced by the fact that the above spiel is nonsense. No, they did not.
Passer wrote: I was told they had no idea why the seas did not fill up,
Again, what does that mean?
Passer wrote: but more or less maintained their level even though the rains and rivers fell into them. I readily admit I have no evidence they did not know.
Where does rainwater come from Passer?
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Dinosaurs described
Job 40:15-24
15“Behold, Behemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. 16Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. 17He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. 18His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron.
19“He is the first of the works of God; let him who made him bring near his sword! 20For the mountains yield food for him where all the wild beasts play. 21Under the lotus plants he lies, in the shelter of the reeds and in the marsh. 22For his shade the lotus trees cover him; the willows of the brook surround him. 23Behold, if the river is turbulent he is not frightened; he is confident though Jordan rushes against his mouth. 24Can one take him by his eyes, or pierce his nose with a snare?
I highlight the parts that seem to refer to a huge beast, strong and powerful.
Which applies to anything from olifants and mammoths to oxen and rhinos.
Also, afaik no animal has bones of bronze or iron.
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It sounds like a sauropod.
It does not.
Passer wrote: Clearly not a hippo, or rhino, or elephant due to the large cedar like tail,
That's not what the text says Passer. It says it can stiffen it's tale like a cedar.
Passer wrote: and it cannot be a crocodile because the behemoth eats grass; I’m not sure if they do that.
It can be a plethora of other big herbivores, both extant and extinct.
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Light Can Be Divided
Job 38:34
24What is the way to the place where the light is distributed, or where the east wind is scattered upon the earth?
Isaac Newton studied light and discovered it was made up of seven different colours. Science confirmed this 400 years ago but the Bible is talking about it 4000 years ago.
Again, that's not what the text says. It asks a question about the place where light is distributed, not scattered into different parts of the colour spectrum.
The text is also wrong about the wind. East is a relative concept.
Passer wrote: If it isn't, what might the verses be referring to?
See above. This is not meant as a personal attack, but it seems to me that you are either not reading the text you're quoting carefully or your uunderstanding of English is either lacking or incongruous.
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The Jet Streams
Ecclesiastes 1:6 6The wind blows to the south and goes around to the north; around and around goes the wind, and on its circuits the wind returns
Once again, relative concepts. South from where? Around to the north of what?
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At a time when it was thought the winds blew straight,
Nonsense.
Passer wrote:the Bible declares the wind goes to the south then turns again to the north,
Which is also nonsense,
Passer wrote: the winds whirl about continually and returns again to its circuit. The jet stream circuit wasn’t discovered until the early 1940s
The biblical text is not describing jet streams it's asserting that wind is a phenomenon that is the result of circular system wherein wind itself circulates. Which is false.
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Light Can Be Sent and Manifested in Speech
Job 38:35 35 Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go and say to you, ‘Here we are’?
The Bible is saying you can use electricity to send messages and lightning also generates radio waves.
This text isn't describing radio waves.
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This one is particularly impressive because I cannot think of what else it might mean
That's an appeal to personal ignorance.
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I am a Christian, but please believe me when I say I am only looking for information here because I am studying this topic concerning Science and the Bible.
Well, science is a noun not a name or title, hence it shouldn't be capitalised.