Posted: Aug 15, 2017 8:45 pm
Wortfish wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Again, why ought there be a why?
Because the universe need not have natural laws permitting it to be ordered, life-conducive and rationally intelligible. Everything could be chaos and unpredictable disorder. That's a major problem for those of a non-theistic persuasion.
No it isn't a problem for those of us who paid attention in science classes, as I expounded in detail above. Not least because there exist possibilities for an ordered universe whose underlying physics doesn't permit the emergence of organisms like us, as I stated earlier. With the appropriate physics, there could exist a universe in which the only stable atoms are hydrogen atoms. Or one in which stable atoms themselves don't form, and the only particles extant therein are uncombined subatomic particles. It's not as if physicists haven't investigated alternatives to the physics extant in our observable universe, and indeed, I've presented scientific papers covering relevant research into alternatives in other threads in the past.
Plus, anyone who has spent time studying quantum physics, is well aware of the fun and games arising from indeterminism. Except that, oops, the requisite physics also happens to be capable of predicting behaviours quantitatively, to 15 decimal places of accuracy. A feature that is manifestly lacking from mythology and its assertions.