Posted: Sep 12, 2017 8:25 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
Wortfish wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Conjuring up a universe would violate the first law of law of thermodynamics. Oops.

Good point. Certainly, if ex nihilo means from literally nothing, then this would be a massive violation.

But that's what your claiming with your first creator 'argument'.

Wortfish wrote: But if ex nihilo means the universe was created not from any primordial substance, but from God's own essence, then there would be no violation.

Still haven't established the existence of any god, much less yours.
Still haven't established the existence of anything supernatural.
Still haven't established infinity being impossible.