Posted: Sep 12, 2017 8:59 pm
by Shrunk
Wortfish wrote:
Shrunk wrote:
I don't follow. If a politician takes a bribe, that's a miracle? :eh:


Not really. But it would be atypical for all politicians to break the law they themselves enacted. Miracles are often defined as wondrous events that seemingly violate known physics. There are some way in which a miracle could occur:

1. Suspension (temporary) of the laws of Nature.
2. Through some unknown, but still natural, process.
3. Through extremely improbable, but still possible, natural events happening together.

I suspect 2) and 3) are the likeliest options available to the ruler of the universe. But 1) is still an option.


You're still not making yourself at all clear. I don't know how "atypical" it would be for a politician to break a law he, himself, enacted. But so what? Isn't it in the very nature of miracles that they be "atypical"?

#1 is consistent with what I would consider a "miracle", but you say that is the least likely.

Examples of #2 would be common things like thunder, lightning, the motion of the tides, etc, etc, to a person living 5000 years ago. They resulted from natural processes, but which would have been unknown at the time. But are those miracles?

#3 happens every time someone wins the lottery. But is that a miracle? I don't think so.

So, sorry, but you still are not making a bit of sense.