Posted: Mar 28, 2018 1:43 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
Let's see.
Haven't even read the main text yet and the OP already starts with a ludicrous click-bait title.

Wortfish wrote:There are many strawmen erected for creationism on this site and others.

So creationists like to assert but fail to demonstrate through anything other than posting straw-men themselves.

Wortfish wrote: Here is a list of 7 common misconceptions about what creationists are supposed to believe and what they actually do believe:

Since creationism isn't a religion with a strict catechism, there isn't anything a creationist is supposed to believe, beyond the basic 'The universe/earth/humanity was created'.

Wortfish wrote:1. Creationists believe the Earth is 6000 years old

Never seen this claimed on this site or any other for that matter.
Ie a straw-man.

Wortfish wrote:
2. Creationists believe in a Global Flood

Again, never seen claimed.
Many do though.

Wortfish wrote:
3. Creationists do no accept natural selection and adaptation

More nonsense.

Not so. Many creationist don't even understand the concepts.

Wortfish wrote:Creationists accept natural selection as a conserving and, at times, destructive force in biology (Nature's executioner).


Wortfish wrote: Creationists also accept that adaptation takes place, often by way of "beneficial" loss-of-function mutations, as with antibiotic resistance in bacteria where those organisms in the population with a defective target gene survive.

And QED again.

Wortfish wrote:
4. Creationists do not accept that speciation happens and believe in the fixity of species

Again, never seen this claimed. Again, many creationist do not and do.

Wortfish wrote:Again, this is not what creationists believe.

Again, given that, even by your own admission, there is no one True Creationism, statements like 'Creationists believe X' are silly.

Wortfish wrote: On the contrary, creationists have to believe in speciation and rapid adaptive radiation because they think that God created the "kinds", like the cat kind, which have since diversified into many species.

1. Kind isn't a rigourous term and as such has no relation to biological evolution.
2. God creating kinds constitutes neither speciation nor a flexibility of species. Rather the opposite.

Wortfish wrote:
5. Creationists believe that God magically poofed new organisms into existence from nothing

Again, many do.

Wortfish wrote:Again, this is not what Genesis actually states.

Ah, so now we're on to lying through cherry-picking. The following verses clearly show this to be a false charge:

Wortfish wrote:Genesis 1:11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.”

So God commands that the land produce vegetation and does not simply poof them into existence from nothing.

Except that's exactly what is being described. On god's command the earth produces vegetation ex-nihilo.
So at best, you could argue that it isn't god directly who creates things out of nothing.
Which would be a silly technical minutiae.

Wortfish wrote:
Genesis 2: 21-22: So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

Where did the man come from Wortfish?
Could it be that you left that bit out because it refutes your position?
Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

Humans are neither made from clay nor are they all descended from a golem and a rib woman.

Wortfish wrote:
Even if these verses are to be taken figuratively, the principle behind it shows that God can take a pre-existing part, modify it and make it into something else, just as evolution is supposed to do.

Utter horseshit. This is not at all analogous to evolution.
Evolution works with living organisms, not inamite matter like dust or ribs.

Wortfish wrote: He doesn't have to create from scratch each time.

He needed to create the pre-existing parts Wortfish. How did he do that exactly?

Wortfish wrote:
6. Creationists do not accept the existence of transitional fossils

Again, many don't. To pretend that this hasn't been one of the major creationist points of attack on evolution is just pathetically dishonest.

Wortfish wrote:Creationists do not reject the existence of the actual fossils, only their designation as "transitional".

Flat earthers don't reject the existence of the space station, only that it orbits around the earth.
It's obviously hooked unto the firmament.
Do you really not see the stupidity in your argument or has your trolling sunk to even lower levels?

Wortfish wrote: They regard specimens like Archaeopteryx and Tiktaalik as "mosaic" species that, like the platypus, have features shared with other animals.

Blind and counterfactual assertions do not a rational position make Wortfish.
Creationists DO deny the existence of transitional fossils.

Wortfish wrote:
7. Creationists believe all DNA was intelligently designed and there is no such thing as junk DNA:

Again, many do.

Wortfish wrote:
On the contrary, creationists believe that in a post-Fall world,

Another unsubstantiated assertion.

Wortfish wrote: degeneration due to the accumulation of slightly harmful mutations is inevitable.

Another idiosyncratic, ad-hoc assumption.

Wortfish wrote:John Sanford outlined this in his book, "Genomic Entropy", where he proposes that the human genome is steadily deteriorating.

An irrelevant appeal to authority fallacy.

So, not only does your list not contain deadly misconceptions. It is wholly made up of straw-men, counterfactual claims, lies of omission and flat out nonsense.