Posted: Nov 15, 2018 6:45 am
by Jayjay4547
Cito di Pense wrote:
Jayjay4547 wrote:
SkyMutt wrote:
Jayjay4547 wrote:All the others had doltish skeletons and so did their kids.


:lol: What is a "doltish skeleton" and why would the almighty, all knowing, all powerful "Creator" have built such a thing?


By "doltish" skeleton I meant, one that proved that it could not be taught by circumstances to become much different than how it was back in the Triassic period. Looking at the cladogram on the previous page, while the Ornithodia kids became sauropods and birds and so on, the Pseudosuchia kids all looked a lot like lizards....


As to why something could not be taught, consult the features of 'teachability'

In the human context, teaching typically happens in the context of an institution that carries a lot of knowledge like a school or university. People come there to gain some of that knowledge. By gaining knowledge they gain the ability to do things they could not do before. In the natural context, Nature carries know-how embodied in individual living things. In the course of generations, those living things have come to embody more and more know-how. The word “teach” is quite appropriate for this directed process.
Cito di Pense wrote: and don't mix your metaphors, such as "doltish skeleton" or "taught by circumstances", when you mean "selected".

Those aren’t metaphors let alone mixed ones, nor are they covered by the term “selected”. I used them intentionally. The adjective “doltish” implies unteachable or in this context, being unable to adapt in a needed direciton. I used the phrase “taught by circumstances” to emphasise the role of teaching in the biological creation and the externality of the agency. For example, the creation of the first flying tetrapods might have followed the circumstance of there being the first forests, providing things to eat “at heights” with potential shortcuts from one tree to the next.
Cito di Pense wrote:Could you be more ignorant than you think I think you are? How about more ignorant than you think you are?

Gosh you leave me there Cito.

aban57 wrote:
Jayjay4547 wrote:
SkyMutt wrote:
Jayjay4547 wrote:
As to why on all powerful Creator would have built creatures with doltish skeletons, you can ask her that yourself.

Her ? :what:

If one looks towards what is greater than the species and is an agent of Creation, the first thing encountered is “Nature” and that is typically gendered as female. Maybe because Nature is fecund.