Posted: Nov 16, 2019 7:40 pm
by Spearthrower
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Hominini / hominins = a taxonomic tribe of the subfamily Homininae (hominines), includes the genus Homo, the Australopithecina, and possibly - but still disputed - the genus Pan. That means this group includes all of our most recent ancestors including modern humans, and possibly the 2 species of chimpanzee.

Homininae / hominines = a subfamily of the Hominidae (hominids), includes 2 tribes, i) as above, the hominins, and ii) the Gorillini, i.e. the 2 extant species of gorilla, and one extinct genus Chororapithecus. If chimps aren't hominins (which I would say they are) then they're hominines.

Hominidae / hominids / "great apes" = a taxonomic family of the superfamily Hominoidea (hominoids or 'apes'), includes all the above, plus the Bornean, Sumatran and Tapanuli orangutan, and several extinct genera.

Hominoidea / hominoids / "apes" = one of the 2 superfamilies of the Catarrhini (Old World anthropoids), which includes all the above, plus the Hylobatidae family; the 16 species of gibbon.

In turn, the catarrhines are part of the simiformes (simians) including all the Old World monkeys, which together with the tarsiers form the haplorhines, which together with the platyrrhines (New World Monkeys) are part of the order Primates, which contains all of the above.

Humans are just as much primates as each and every other species within all of these classes. To argue otherwise is simply to expose yourself as lacking any relevant knowledge. No primatologist contends this at all, there is no controversy, and you Wortfish lack the knowledge to manufacture one.