Posted: Jan 20, 2020 11:07 am
by Spearthrower
Jayjay4547 wrote:
List of ideological notions held by atheists:

(a)We not in relation with anything more creative than us.

(b)There is nothing special about human beings

(c) There is no purpose in evolution

(d) We are apes with smarts.

(e) Evolution is a bushing out of life into a variety of forms.

Each of these notions has played a part in messing up the human origin story as told in terms of evolution.



Can you spell idiosyncrasy? I expect you're too busy making stuff up to try! :grin:

a) I'm in relation with all manner of creative people. If you want to contend that there is something not human which is more creative than us, do feel free to provide evidence. This is really just you saying that there is a god, atheists don't believe in god, therefore you're just saying that atheists don't believe in god.

b) There are plenty of things special about humans - this has nothing to do with atheism as an atheist might disbelieve my position or not depending on how they think about shit. However, from a comparative biological and social point of view, there are plenty of things particular to us - just not the mindless guff you trot out.

c) Not atheism - this is literally the scientific explanation of all forces: none of them posit teleology because teleology cannot be quantified, observed, or appealed to with evidence.

d) We are smart apes: this cannot be argued but is, of course, nothing to do with atheism, but rather what the empirical evidence shows us. We're not 'that' smart either in comparison to other animals, just we have a particular suite of cognitive abilities.

e) Again, this is scientific explanation, not atheistic.


So even though you pretend really hard otherwise, as I've said in the past, you're just a typical Creationist desperately seeking ways to undermine evolutionary theory because it doesn't leave room for your precious belief system.

Aside from the first point, these are all standard scientific positions on evolution, and where applicable can be expanded to other scientific explanations - geologists don't think the volcano's an angry spirit having a tantrum; astronomers don't believe that the Earth is the centre of the universe; meteorologists have no truck with claims that assert that weather phenomena are caused by excess homosexuality... but none of these are anything intrinsically to do with atheism: they're scientific perspectives based on evidence, and the fact that they may disprove your nonsensical beliefs indicates a problem inherent with your beliefs, not that they all represent some kind of ideology seeking to counter your uncritical faith in bullshit.

I'm so glad you wrote this post JJ - you will never again be able to pretend you're anything other than a run-of-the-mill ignorant Creationist loon seeking to overturn scientific knowledge in preference for antiquated, vapid dogma, and due to lacking the ability to engage scientists to any degree of substance, you instead vent your arrogant ideologically motivated hostility at atheists just because they don't genuflect to your god belief and are willing to accept empirical evidence.

:cheers: