Posted: Jun 24, 2010 8:49 pm
Oh dear, not more in tray junk to deal with ...
We know. You don't need to tell us this. Your reputation precedes you. You're known on four continents for this.
Oh, you think that a cadre of professional liars for doctrine has "good" answers, do you? You have pathetically low evidential standards if this is the case.
Who are prostituting their gifts by duplicitously treating science as a branch of apologetics. We're supposed to be impressed by this, just because they wave their Ph.Ds around in a Pharisaic display of posturing?
Only because the education system in America has been corrupted by these pedlars of lies amongst others.
Bollocks. They are nothing but professional liars for doctrine. They tell lies, Byers. Indeed, another Christian who accepted their invitation to engage in so-called "debate" discovered this for himself, and lamented this fact in a public blog post. Another poster has provided the relevant link in another thread. I suggest you read it, and find out how another Christian feels about having his words twisted to suit duplicitous apologetic ends.
Scientifically, Byers, they are irrelevant. They only pose a "threat" because they are well funded, politically well connected, and prepared to lie and cheat to propagandise for their doctrine. The only "threat" they pose is because of political skulduggery.
Bollocks. Scientists regard them as an irrelevance. The only people who listen to the lies they disseminate are people who never paid attention in a science class.
If you call lying for doctrine "help", Byers, they've certainly done that. Read the Wedge Strategy document have you, where they explicitly state that their mission is to destroy real science and replace it with a bastardised version subservient to religious ideology? In other words, Byers, they want to turn the clock back to the days before Galileo.
Oh we've seen their "practical politics", Byers. Which involves political skulduggery. "Cdesign proponentsists" anyone?
HA HA HA HA HA!
Byers, they explicitly present their creationist agenda in the Wedge Strategy document that they themselves compiled. We don't have to "discredit" them, they do that themselves by their actions.
Bollocks. ID consists of nothing more than "Magic Man did it" repackaged. Since when did any real scientists consider this worthy of consideration?
None of it the sort of attention you really want, Byers.
Ha ha ha ha. You do realise, Byers, that you've just admitted in this post of yours that you think a bunch of publicly exposed professional liars for doctrine somehow enhance your asinine cause?
Robert Byers wrote:I am YEC.
We know. You don't need to tell us this. Your reputation precedes you. You're known on four continents for this.
Robert Byers wrote:Yet I find discovery to be quite good on many points of creationism.
Oh, you think that a cadre of professional liars for doctrine has "good" answers, do you? You have pathetically low evidential standards if this is the case.
Robert Byers wrote:They represent well degree ed people
Who are prostituting their gifts by duplicitously treating science as a branch of apologetics. We're supposed to be impressed by this, just because they wave their Ph.Ds around in a Pharisaic display of posturing?
Robert Byers wrote:who have become famous and many siccessful [sic] book sellers.
Only because the education system in America has been corrupted by these pedlars of lies amongst others.
Robert Byers wrote:They have made a imprint and are agents of change in origin issues.
Bollocks. They are nothing but professional liars for doctrine. They tell lies, Byers. Indeed, another Christian who accepted their invitation to engage in so-called "debate" discovered this for himself, and lamented this fact in a public blog post. Another poster has provided the relevant link in another thread. I suggest you read it, and find out how another Christian feels about having his words twisted to suit duplicitous apologetic ends.
Robert Byers wrote:they are a threat to the establishment here
Scientifically, Byers, they are irrelevant. They only pose a "threat" because they are well funded, politically well connected, and prepared to lie and cheat to propagandise for their doctrine. The only "threat" they pose is because of political skulduggery.
Robert Byers wrote:and are growing in influence.
Bollocks. Scientists regard them as an irrelevance. The only people who listen to the lies they disseminate are people who never paid attention in a science class.
Robert Byers wrote:They have helped biblical creationism with ideas and concepts
If you call lying for doctrine "help", Byers, they've certainly done that. Read the Wedge Strategy document have you, where they explicitly state that their mission is to destroy real science and replace it with a bastardised version subservient to religious ideology? In other words, Byers, they want to turn the clock back to the days before Galileo.
Robert Byers wrote:but also practical politics.
Oh we've seen their "practical politics", Byers. Which involves political skulduggery. "Cdesign proponentsists" anyone?
Robert Byers wrote:By I'D;s enemies attacking them as biblical creationists, in order to discredit them, they gave to us more publicity and credibility.
HA HA HA HA HA!
Byers, they explicitly present their creationist agenda in the Wedge Strategy document that they themselves compiled. We don't have to "discredit" them, they do that themselves by their actions.
Robert Byers wrote: I.D is well known and has interest in them in academic circles and culture
Bollocks. ID consists of nothing more than "Magic Man did it" repackaged. Since when did any real scientists consider this worthy of consideration?
Robert Byers wrote:and by lumping them with us brought us more attention.
None of it the sort of attention you really want, Byers.
Robert Byers wrote:Cause and effect.
Ha ha ha ha. You do realise, Byers, that you've just admitted in this post of yours that you think a bunch of publicly exposed professional liars for doctrine somehow enhance your asinine cause?