Posted: Sep 01, 2010 11:17 pm
Oh dear, not this excrement again ...
Bollocks. It's a direct consequence of the chemistry of the molecule. As you would know if you had ever paid attention in a real science class instead of wasting time with worthless apologetic excrement. Oh, and since I have thirteen scientific papers establishing that the genetic code is itself an evolvable entity, none of which you have ever bothered to even acknowledge the existence of in your usual dishonest fashion, your pseudo-argument is null and void.
It's fatuous and wrong supernaturalist analogy time again!
What part of "the chemistry of the DNA molecule, coupled with the interaction (yet more chemical reactions) with the ribosomes, determine what protein is coded for" don't you understand? Scientists have known this for decades.
You obviously never bothered studying any actual chemistry, did you?
Fatuous waffle. What part of "the arrangement of nucleotides IS the information" don't you understand?
And as usual, this is fatuous, asinine apologetic bollocks that bears no relation to REALITY. Go and learn some REAL SCIENCE instead of wasting time with gazing at the apologetic lint in your own metaphysical navel.
Bollocks. What part of "information is nothing more than the observational data extant with respect to the state of a system" do you still not understand, despite me telling you this repeatedly?
And since their arrangement is a physical entity, namely position in space, you're talking bollocks again.
Going to learn some real science someday, Polanyi, instead of wasting time with apologetic excrement and a masturbation fantasy of a doctrine?
Polanyi wrote:The information in the DNA molecule [the meaningful arrangement of nucleotides that code for function] is irreducible to the chemistry of the DNA molecule
Bollocks. It's a direct consequence of the chemistry of the molecule. As you would know if you had ever paid attention in a real science class instead of wasting time with worthless apologetic excrement. Oh, and since I have thirteen scientific papers establishing that the genetic code is itself an evolvable entity, none of which you have ever bothered to even acknowledge the existence of in your usual dishonest fashion, your pseudo-argument is null and void.
Polanyi wrote:just like the meaningful arrangement of letters on a printed page is irreducible to the chemistry of the printed page.
It's fatuous and wrong supernaturalist analogy time again!
What part of "the chemistry of the DNA molecule, coupled with the interaction (yet more chemical reactions) with the ribosomes, determine what protein is coded for" don't you understand? Scientists have known this for decades.
Polanyi wrote:There is nothing in the chemical makeup of the DNA molecule or it's bases that determines how they are arranged
You obviously never bothered studying any actual chemistry, did you?
Polanyi wrote:and it's only because the molecule can protect it's sequences from the effects of self-organizing physio chemical forces that allows it to preserve the information content.
Fatuous waffle. What part of "the arrangement of nucleotides IS the information" don't you understand?
Polanyi wrote:This is why we would say the digital information in the DNA molecule is irreducible to the physicality of the molecule.
And as usual, this is fatuous, asinine apologetic bollocks that bears no relation to REALITY. Go and learn some REAL SCIENCE instead of wasting time with gazing at the apologetic lint in your own metaphysical navel.
Polanyi wrote:Also the information is non-physical
Bollocks. What part of "information is nothing more than the observational data extant with respect to the state of a system" do you still not understand, despite me telling you this repeatedly?
Polanyi wrote:yes, the symbols are material, but the symbols is not the information, it's their specific arrangement that records the information.
And since their arrangement is a physical entity, namely position in space, you're talking bollocks again.
Going to learn some real science someday, Polanyi, instead of wasting time with apologetic excrement and a masturbation fantasy of a doctrine?