Posted: Apr 28, 2010 4:49 am
Leonidas wrote:
You mean learn and accept the science that you agree with. That's like a priest telling me to read the Bible and all sorts of expert commentaries before deciding I am an atheist. I am an atheist because I don't have any belief in that stuff. I have read a lot about global warming but I'm not an expert, nor a scientist. It doesn't persuade me. Like religion, a big problem is not lack of knowledge of expert opinion, it is the conflict between that 'consensus' view of the world and my own first hand experience of it.
Earlier commentary in this post by Leonidas, prior to this paragraph, has been snipped. I don't respond to unscientific, illogical and stupid blathering, and that's mainly because it has no end, it can go on forever and I don't have forever,
Here let me say that science isn't something one agrees with or doesn't agree with. It is rather something one either apprehends and understands or doesn't and it is plain to me that you've not apprehended climate science and hence exhibit a very poor understanding of it. I have said on a number of occasions that you should study the science and apprehend its fundamentals and come to understand it for your own self, and to reach your own conclusions about it.
I am most assuredly not asking you to accept the science just because I happen to understand it and therefore accept it; I am rather stating that you need to do this on your own and for yourself, independent of what any others may think, including me.
This is something that is incumbent upon us all, each and every one of us. It is the only way that a meaningful dialogue about the science can ensue, there simply is no other way. Now, I have spent the better part of fifteen years doing exactly this while you've spent zero time and made zero effort. Is it any wonder we can't have a meaningful conversation?
I'm not asking you to simply believe me, I'm asking you to study the science, to apprehend it and come to undertand it so that you can reach your own conclusions about what it is telling us. I'm asking you to figure it out for yourself.
What you have done is reach a bunch of erroneous and badly misguided conclusions from media supplied information and a poorly developed idea of how science works and the ways and means it employs to do what it does. It is embarrassing to be so uninformed and to speak with such assurance, or even assumed authority.
Henceforth I'll not respond to anything you have to say here, enough is enough, you've blathered your way into an epic FAIL and I want no part of it, thank you very much.