Posted: Jun 12, 2010 12:11 pm
by TMB
Shrunk wrote:
TMB wrote:Actually what passed as science of the time, told us it was flat and we all wnt along with it without needing personal validation of the data. Then science told us it was a speher, and once again we went along with what we wer told because we are good at absorbing social opinions. Once again we did not rely upon personal validation of the primary data. Have a look at the other threads on this forum, and all the peole who belive in evolution (ie. science) who have no idea what it actually is in principle and certainly no direct validation of the evidence - this makes it hearsay.

My point is that scientific method might be a good system, but people stil rely upon hearsay to form opinions. Medical science (allopathy) has changed mostly because of pressure caused by ineffective or destructive remedies. We can only wait to see just what fallout there is with the use of antibiotics (we have some inkling, vaccinations because the weight of conventional wisdom is that rules us, not scientific method.

So you're saying my "belief" that the planet Neptune exists is invalid because I have not verified it personally, whereas someone's belief that fairies are real is valid because it is based on personal experience?


Your extrapolation is ridiculous. Consider how much faith pateints have in medicine of any form. Doctors diagnose and prescribe and patients mostly have no idea whatever of what anything means. I have questioned medical people enough times to get them to change their minds and approach simply because they too accept what they are given as medical protocols without question. What I will say is that your belief in Neptune is certainly based upon what you have been told. This does not make it wrong, it just means you are not qualified on the reality of Neptune, unless you understand the methods, the primary data etc. You might retort that it is impossible for people to know all of this, and I would agree, but it still means that they are then not qualified. Take the recent view that Neanderthals interbred with Cro Magnon, this revelation changes the previous held view that said they went extinct and did not interbreed. Did you believe both therories although different, and I imagine you took expert opinions at face value without questioning them. No issue with that, it just means you need to belive what people tell you without question.