Posted: Jun 13, 2010 11:13 am
by DST70
Shrunk wrote:Which brings up the question that often arises in response to arguments for the existence of God: How do you determine the difference between something that exists, but for whose existence no evidence exists, and something which simply does not exist? Answer: You can't.

That could be the most important question to consider. Yes it has consequences beyond this topic. Are you sure you can't determine the difference? Whether you can verify this within a formalised empirical study though - and then communicate that finding to others for replication and verification - is a different matter, requiring fulfilling different criteria. This probably sounds quite ridiculous.

It's very easily done. You use a standardized self-rating scale for pain. The rating is subjective, but so long as the conditions of the trial are well-controlled that doesn't matter. Improvement, or not, in pain control can still be determined.

But would the conditions of most well controlled trials allow for different types of pain - sharp, burning, electric, dull, chronic, intermittent, stinging? Worse for sitting; or being near electrical equipment; or near the sea? I'm labouring the point a bit, but you can see where this is going. Study design means decisions get made about confounding variables.

I don't really know anything about qigong. If you want to show us some of these favourable studies, I"m sure we'd be interested. (But they'd better be good!)

I'll try and root some out, although personally I'm not so interested in supplying scientific evidence as much as exploring whether the scientific method comes up short. (Plus something tells me that whatever studies I find, won't be good enough here...... ;) )

I take it you're a medical professional? Do you mind if I ask in what field?