Posted: Nov 15, 2010 9:53 pm
by darwin2
Rubicon wrote:
darwin2 wrote:Third, I never made a claim that I can demonstrate a single well-recorded instance of a "conscious mind" existing absent a physical substrate - brain.

Fourth, I did make the scientific statement that it is possible for consciousness to continue after death. If consciousness continues after death it will exist in whatever form it finds itself in after death. And that Sir is a correct scientific statement.

Rubicon wrote:[Your fourth point is not a scientific statement, it is a blind assertion. If it was in any way scientific, it would have been supported by some form of evidence, however small it may be. You have already admitted that you have none, which renders your statement utterly unscientific. While speculating about after-death consciousness may make for interesting mental gymnastics, there is no reason whatsoever to entertain the notion..

Sir, I have never stated that consciousness continues after death. I stated it is possible that it may exist after death. In previous posts I have stated that I don’t know what form consciousness would have if it survived death. All I can say is the form it gets is the form it will have. And that Sir is a scientific statement.

There is reason to entertain the notion because it is possible one’s consciousness may survive death and it is wise to prepare for such a reality.

Rubicon wrote:[]darwin2 wrote
Sir, Science has never demonstrated that it is impossible for consciousness to exist outside the brain.

Just like science has never demonstrated that there are no invisible blue baboons on Saturn. There is simply no reason whatsoever to investigate such an absurd claim based on the complete lack of evidence pointing in any direction of the kind..

That is a silly irrelevant statement. Who cares if there are no invisible baboons on Saturn? But if one is wise one should care about one’s death because the scientific reality is that one is going to die and it is a scientific reality that consciousness may survivethe death of the physical body. This Sir is a realistic possibility not an absurd one but I do agree it would be a waste of time for science to investigate this possibility now because evidence is totally lacking but science should deal with the possibility that this might occur and should at the very least come up with some reasonable ways to deal with it if it takes place. That would be the ethical thing to do.