Posted: Nov 16, 2010 12:57 am
by Goldenmane
darwin2 wrote:
Goldenmane wrote:What the fuck is "consciousness"?

Define it, then we'll talk.


Are you aware that you asked me this question "What the fuck is "consciousness"? ]Are you aware that you made the statement "Define it, then we'll talk?"

If you answer yes to both questions, you have my definition of consciousness..


That wasn't a rigorous definition. It was specious hand-waving. That shit went out of fashion about mid-last-century.

Apply some fucking rigour to your formulation of ideas. Define, clearly, "consciousness".

I don't think you can. The reason I don't think you can is because it's only just beginning to really start to become clear (through the studies pursued by neuroscientists of various kinds) how to properly frame the appropriate questions, and I've seen no indication that you understand anything about the last couple of decades or so of such work.

Good luck. If you can clearly define consciousness and give compelling evidence to support the notion that it is in no way tied to the physical processes of the brain, and in fact continues after death, I'm fairly sure you're going to change the entire world.

I don't, however, think this is going to happen.