Posted: Jun 23, 2016 4:39 pm
by Sendraks
kyrani99 wrote: I know the scientific view is that we are all robots so maybe you want to see a computer printouts of the robot's past experiences and without emotion of course.


Oh you "know" this do you? I personally find it very hard to "know" stuff that has no basis in fact.


kyrani99 wrote:As for delusions again anything that is in a person's subjective experience and interpersonal environment, to which all others are not privy, is, by many people especially skeptics, called delusional.


Nope. This is bullshit you've just made up and entirely inconsistent with the definition of delusional.

kyrani99 wrote:There is no scientific evidence for any personal/subjective experience

I've already debunked this ridiculous notion where I discussed marmite. There is absolutely evidence that people do have subjective experiences. Where you're confused is that subjective experiences do not constitute objective evidence in and of themselves.

But I've already explained this and as per usual, you've ignored it.

kyrani99 wrote:so a skeptic will want to use that to call another person's memory of an experience as a fabrication or delusion,

Nope. Again you're utterly confused about what has been said or deliberately misinterpreting what has been said in order to cling to your wibbly wobbly nonsense argument.

Fact: People can and do fabricate their experience of events.
Fact: Individuals recollections of events are not reliable evidence by themselves.
Fact: Only where individual recollections can be robustly correlated with objective evidence, do they have any value as a record of what occurred.
Fact: Where Individual recollections of events cannot be robustly correlated with objective evidence, because they involve stuff that has no objective measure like the supernatural, they fail as evidence. All you can say is at best the individual believes in what they say happened.

kyrani99 wrote:sespecially if it conflicts with their view of reality. :roll:

Events which can be objectively verified are not a "view" of reality. They ARE reality. Do learn this basic concept.