Posted: Dec 23, 2016 7:18 pm
by crank
Nicko wrote:
solazy wrote:Where are they?

Ah, the Fermi Paradox.

The answer to which is the Great Filter.

Essentially, as a civilisation attains the ability to contact another solar system, it must necessarily develop the ability to destroy itself. Given the systemic risk posed by such an ability, one would expect most such civilisations to fail to pass this test.

It occurs to me that the Great Filter might take another form: a civilisation that fails to free itself from it's planet of origin before that planet's fossil fuels are exhausted, probably just stays there.

Hey Nicko, that 'o' isn't short for [Nick] Bostrom is it?

I'm a huge fan, I don't agree with everything he says of course, but he's got fascinating ideas. Another solution to the Fermi Paradox is what I mentioned earlier, another is that advanced civilizations, after going trans-[alien species], acquiring 'brains' that can think billions, maybe trillions, of times faster than we can, will live subjective lives at an astronomical rate. This results in them realizing the utter horror of boredom, which arises rapidly and often, and also causing them to fully comprehend the absurdity of everything, so each and every one of them terminate their operations soon after reaching the trans stage, though it could be millions of lives in subjective time, or maybe better thought as 'amount of thought' time.