Posted: Feb 21, 2011 7:22 pm
by johannessiig
First of all, what is transcendence? Well, in a nutshell, it is the sum (and the container) of all things supernatural. It is, by definition, outside the space-time continuum.

Wikipedia should clear things up nicely:
Wikipedia wrote:Transcendence (religion)
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In religion, transcendence is a condition or state of being that surpasses physical existence and in one form is also independent of it. It is affirmed in the concept of the divine in the major religious traditions, and contrasts with the notion of God, or the Absolute, existing exclusively in the physical order (immanentism), or indistinguishable from it (pantheism).


So, the transcendence contains (or, rather, might contain) things like aliens, angels, gods, etc.


Everything that is not natural, is supernatural. However, everything that exists, is by definition, part of the natural. Therefore, we make the logical conclusion that the supernatural does, by definition, not have an existence.

Since transcendence is, by definition, the sum, and location of the supernatural (above the natural), then it, by definition, must either be empty, or not exist at all.

If god/aliens/angels/you name any irrational belief... is part of the transcendence, they either are, again, by definition, nothing, and/or don't exist.

Aliens: Special case.
The probability of aliens existing can be calculated via means of simple mathematics (the Drake equation). And, if aliens were to exist or to be found to exist, they would most likely be part of the natural (within the space-time continuum), therefore we should not assume they are a part of the transcendence, since it contains everything outside the space-time continuum.




Where is the fault in my reasoning?

All replies are greatly appreciated.