Posted: Mar 02, 2010 6:08 am
Well, I couldn't resist another night of prophecy propaganda. Tonight's topic was basically just one prophecy: Daniel's vision and interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream, with the statue etc. We went through the various kingdoms said to be represented by the parts of the statue, culminating with the failures of Europe to unite under one flag via various conquerors and the interbreeding of the European royalty. Much more preachy at the end.
"What does it mean to us?", "We are living in the time of the toes of the statue", "Jesus is coming soon", "The next event is THE END!" Benztinger actually asked us to raise our hands if we wanted to be a part of the "FINAL KINGDOM". I was in the front row, so I didn't know if I was alone in non-raising. This part was accompanied by "scarey" images of the end times in cartoon form. There was some more audience soliciting and preaching before we wrapped up.
Afterward, I talked to a believer who was showing Bentzinger something. I asked what it was and he showed me a printout of the same old satelite photo from a zillion websites showing the route of Moses' flight from Egypt. At least this guy had a starting point for a source: http://www.detailshere.com/exoduspath.htm
We talked about Ron Wyatt for a bit, with me sharing my concerns about his past and his critics. I was polite, and he seemed nice enough. I wanted the conversation to continue. I asked questions about his sources and he gave me a few. In talking about Moller (he claimed it was spelled Mueller, but that name doesn't come up with anything) I suggested that all his evidence was just Ron Wyatt's pics. He told me about Moller's video which I could find on the Discovery Channel website (couldn't find anything, unless he meant the Amazing Mysteries series). I will ask tomorrow.
I left him by putting a bug in his ear about the credentials of our speaker, of whom we have yet to hear anything about his training or history. I still haven't confronted the speaker himself. Maybe tomorrow.
One last thing: I am confused as to what constitutes a prophesy.
(The Skeptic's Annotated Bible includes proclamations and promises by God.) The Seventh-Day Adventists seem to focus mostly on Daniel and Revelation. I suppose everyone has different critera. How does one determine if "all " of the prophesies have been fulfilled as claimed if there are differing ideas of what falls into the category? 
"What does it mean to us?", "We are living in the time of the toes of the statue", "Jesus is coming soon", "The next event is THE END!" Benztinger actually asked us to raise our hands if we wanted to be a part of the "FINAL KINGDOM". I was in the front row, so I didn't know if I was alone in non-raising. This part was accompanied by "scarey" images of the end times in cartoon form. There was some more audience soliciting and preaching before we wrapped up.
Afterward, I talked to a believer who was showing Bentzinger something. I asked what it was and he showed me a printout of the same old satelite photo from a zillion websites showing the route of Moses' flight from Egypt. At least this guy had a starting point for a source: http://www.detailshere.com/exoduspath.htm
We talked about Ron Wyatt for a bit, with me sharing my concerns about his past and his critics. I was polite, and he seemed nice enough. I wanted the conversation to continue. I asked questions about his sources and he gave me a few. In talking about Moller (he claimed it was spelled Mueller, but that name doesn't come up with anything) I suggested that all his evidence was just Ron Wyatt's pics. He told me about Moller's video which I could find on the Discovery Channel website (couldn't find anything, unless he meant the Amazing Mysteries series). I will ask tomorrow.
I left him by putting a bug in his ear about the credentials of our speaker, of whom we have yet to hear anything about his training or history. I still haven't confronted the speaker himself. Maybe tomorrow.
One last thing: I am confused as to what constitutes a prophesy.
(The Skeptic's Annotated Bible includes proclamations and promises by God.) The Seventh-Day Adventists seem to focus mostly on Daniel and Revelation. I suppose everyone has different critera. How does one determine if "all " of the prophesies have been fulfilled as claimed if there are differing ideas of what falls into the category?