Posted: Feb 19, 2015 9:49 am
by Thomas Eshuis
cavarka9 wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Until you do however, you have no rational basis to assume you have prophetic powers.

Never claimed one. so the sentence makes no sense.

You did:
cavarka9 wrote:
I for example had experience of being able to predict the days my tutor would not show up.

cavarka9 wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
cavarka9 wrote: As far as I and you is concerned. My sense of 'I' is never constant, me as 8 yr old is totally different person to whom I am right now.

It's also a different, not totally, person from me at any age, ergo to claim that everyone is one is woo.

The statement is to question 'I' as an entity of existence, we use it in our language to communicate. But doesnt exist for it changes .

Words are necesarrily limited in conveying concepts.
A tree is not a 'tree', doesn't change that we call it that though or that it exists.

cavarka9 wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
cavarka9 wrote: And If I were to suffer amnesia, what 'I' am would be different given my lack of memories.

You would still be you as opposed to me or him, her, they etc.

In absence of any memories, It makes no sense to say that.

It does. You =/= me. Hence you're you and I'm me.
Regardless of whether you're a different you than 5 minutes ago.

cavarka9 wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
cavarka9 wrote: So 'I' and 'You' is ever changing.

True, doesn't change that you're seperate and different from me and others and not one.

being skeptical of 'I', 'You'.

Playing unnecessarry semantic games.

cavarka9 wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
cavarka9 wrote: And considering that universe shall be the only stuff that shall ever exist and we shall all die and our atoms become parts of others and so on. we are one.

Even if our atoms become part of other configurations, they will never be a merging of a 100% of our atoms.

Was only quoting Einstein " A human being is a part of the whole, called by us "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest—a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. The striving to free oneself from this delusion is the one issue of true religion. Not to nourish it but to try to overcome it is the way to reach the attainable measure of peace of mind."

This is a flawed appeal to authority.
Einstein is saying we are not seperate from the universe, not that we are all one.