Posted: Nov 09, 2018 7:22 am
Kafei wrote:GrahamH wrote:Kafei wrote:
No, what I'm saying is these mystical states of consciousness are profound in their many variances, they occur on a spectrum. Katz assumes that it must necessarily be unitive, and that's not the case at all. It's a safe bet Katz has not had such an experience and according to the more modern studies, his criticism is irrelevant.
So much for "complete" then, now it's "many variances", "spectrum" and "unity" is now optional.
See those goalpost move!
I'm not "moving goal posts." I'm reiterating precisely what these professionals have said.
Making this counterfactual statement over and over again, won't magically make it true Kafei.
Kafei wrote:And I've called in more recently into The Atheist Experience, and I got Matt to admit he's unfamiliar with this research. Therefore, he has no valid criticism to offer.
That's a non-sequitur.