Posted: Jan 04, 2019 4:45 pm
felltoearth wrote:Destroyer wrote:theropod wrote:Destroyer wrote:
The power to ban Kafei was ultimately with the moderators, but there is not the slightest doubt in my mind that it was indeed the participants in this thread who got him banned.
Anyway, I must get back to Liverpool and City right now.
I will not, and did not, hesitate to express my opinion on this matter. I reported several of his posts and made a couple detailed statements to the moderation team regard what I saw as blatant trolling. Ultimately it was a choice made by the mod team. The reason the report page has a text box is for the very reason of gathering member input about all reports that are filed. Whether you like it or not the mod team acted in a manner they saw fit. Why you are whipping this dead horse baffles.
I find your complaints misplaced, and are themselves sailing close to the wind of trolling. What you apparently fail to grasp is that Kafei was banned for posting in a manner that didn’t lend itself to rational discourse. You opinion not withstanding.
RS
I will leave it up to the members and lurkers with integrity to determine whether or not Kafei's posts contained rational content... The biased view here seems to be that because he presented nothing that resembled scientific evidence, his persistence that the research supported his claims, was indeed Trolling... I, however, say that his persistence was indicative of a man with conviction.
Excellent well poisoning there and an interesting comment when kefai demonstrated little to no integrity in this thread whatsoever. Whether he believed the crap he was selling here or not is beside the point. He consistently misrepresented the science and the evidence he presented here, even after being corrected over and over again.* It doesn’t matter whether dishonesty in discussion here is to the membership or to oneself, it amounts to the same outcome – a thread of thousands of posts that obfuscates facts and goes nowhere. That’s not why this discussion board exists.
It is for that very reason that I reported him calling for him to be banned which thankfully produced the desired result.
*additionally, spamming these threads with the same lengthy Youtube videos over and over again, not citing, quoting, or even paraphrasing the content with time stamps. There should be a rule about Youtube spamming as evidential support in the FUA but that’s for another discussion.
This will be my final post in this thread.
There may well be justifiable grounds for not accepting Kafei's defence of his argument as containing evidential scientific support - as he himself kept insisting. As for obfuscating facts, that is the opinion of Kafei's opponents in this debate, and therefore of no interest to me unless presented with unbiased evidential support... Obviously, the man was repetitive: he had numerous opponents and refused to surrender.
However, his fundamental claim, that a certain dose of this particular drug induced mystical experiences has only been seriously challenged by a handful who claim to have taken that amount themselves without experiencing the mystical. So, when all is said and done, it is just their word against Kafei's claims. That is the sum total of this whole debate irrespective of all else that has gone on here.