Posted: Feb 01, 2022 8:39 pm
by Spearthrower
Calilasseia wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:To exemplify that... go back to an earlier cited example:

bailey: white nations are being subjected to genocide by immigration
challenge delusional racism
motte: why is it racist to want to preserve our history and culture?

My response would be that the motte in this case is both a strawman caricature of properly understood anti-racism and a false equivalence. Because it is both perfectly possible, and perfectly proper, to preseve one's history and culture without being racist.

That's exactly why it's the retreat position - the actually defensible position, not the ground they want to take.

What then happens is people get tied up responding to this, so it acts as a distraction.

Of course, preserving history and culture doesn't amount to anyone being subjected to genocide by immigration - the two positions are not remotely relevant, and the former isn't a consequence of the latter.

This isn't to suggest that everyone who engages in this motte and bailey rhetoric does so with cunning intent - it's a learned response as much as anything, but some people thrive in this kind of diversionary 'reasoning' and it can be hard for people unversed in this technique to effectively counter.