Posted: Sep 25, 2011 11:54 pm
by Shrunk
Ichthus77 wrote:Where are the "logical grounds" you speak of? When you say "the event recounted...the event in question" you unwittingly grant victory to McGrew's argument, which is that these undesigned coincidences (do not read "miracle" when I say that, because that is not what I mean by it) point up the authenticity/historicity of the Gospel accounts of these events, and the likelihood that these accounts are not far removed from the eye-witnesses. But of course Luke was not present. Being 'present' at the events one is recording is not a prerequisite to being an historian.


That's it? That's what you're making such a big deal about?

So in my example, the only person who claims to have seen the event is Melvin. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Maybe he got some of the details wrong. Maybe he made the whole thing up. Who knows? The fact that Matthew and Luke presented it only means they both heard Melvin's little anecdote. Big fucking deal, huh?

What does that have to do with this thread?


Exactly! I was referring to the tangent between Moonwatcher, Lion IRC, Matt, Spin and Cito.


Um, OK. :eh: