Posted: Apr 25, 2012 1:20 pm
by Counter Apologist
proudfootz wrote:I'm at a loss to figure out how a being with no free will is able to create beings with free will.

I mean, if free will is good - how is it humans supposedly have a good that this god does not have?

If free will is not good then why would a god create it?

It seems theology is constantly creating conundrums for itself as it reels from one ad hoc explanation to another in a futile effort to extract itself from the difficulties posed by its most recent pronouncement...


I wouldn't want to make the argument that the Christian god as described in the Bible or by apologists doesn't have some kind of Free Will. Even with the limit on god's actions by his perfect holiness (ie. he can only do what's good). By the Christian definition he can still have some kind of Free Will - like he could have made all roses blue instead of most being red for example.

The problem comes when you have a Triple-O being that is perfectly holy by its very nature, and it's nature defines what is good (a circular reference in its own right), create things that are by their nature NOT perfectly holy, ie able to go against god's nature, which is what defines what good is.