Posted: May 05, 2012 6:04 pm
Ian Tattum wrote:willhud9 wrote:Mus Ponticus wrote:willhud9 wrote:Except in what Scripture is Jesus NOT human? Paul never argues that he is not human, nor does Paul argue that he is God. Jesus is Jesus. The other sources that are non-Christian do not paint Jesus as a God, or non-human. He is Jesus. To claim otherwise, is a silly apologetic attempt at interpreting Paul's epistles. You accuse HJ's of apologetics, I can accuse MJers of doing the same thing.
Minor nitpick: Scripture? I might be mis-understanding the english use of that term, but isn't that a Christian term that we skeptics shouldn't use?
But in the New testament you can look at writings like the gospel of John and Colossians, where Jesus is clearly presented as a pre-existing divine being.
Old habits die hard and even as an atheist, I still use the word Scripture when referring to the Bible.
And the title Bible could be seen as a Christian, as it gives a particualr set of books a special status, and never ever write Gospel- Chris Hitchens thought it was very bad news indeed.
I continue to use bible, scripture, and gospel because they are useful words - no neologisms I am aware of seem to quite convey the specificity in so compact a package.
I sometimes say 'gMark' to mean 'gospel of Mark' to refer to a particular document, and I hope no one is mislead into thinking I think it is somehow 'good news actually handed down to us from Mark companion to Peter the disciple of Jesus'.
Communication would become impossible if we had to attach caveats to everything we refer to.