Posted: Apr 15, 2010 7:55 am
by monkeyboy
Ragwortshire wrote:
Dragon83uk wrote:Ideally it would be good to get some Catholics on side with this issue, that way it's not just "those ebil atheistsTM" that are attacking the pope for religious reasons but more humanity taking a strong united stance against a criminal who feels he is protected.

And this is the sort of thing that will achieve exactly the opposite.

If this was the British Government - or even someone representing abuse victims - that wanted to bring a case against the Pope, then I would have to examine the evidence. And even though I'd likely be biased, if I thought the evidence was convincing, I would support him being arrested (and also support us finding a new Pope).

But Dawkins and Hitchens? Two men who very clearly have a vested interest in attacking religion? In that case, I'll just look on it as frivolous harassment. In fact this is about the only way I can think of of getting me to defend Benedict XVI unreservedly. Nice going.
Also, reading The Selfish Gene at the moment: I remember when Dawkins was best known as an evolutionary biologist. Now the Times calls him an atheist campaigner. :(


My bold. Are you seriously suggesting that because it's Dawkins and Hitchens a barrister and solicitor known to Dawkins and Hitchens (my edit having read further through the thread after this post.) having a go at the Pope and that they may have more than one agenda here, you would be likely to be able to defend him? On this issue of child abuse? Do the claws go in so deep that you can't seperate out your faith from someone behaving in a completely abhorrent fashion and willfully covering up abuse just because you have issues with the accuser. And you'd likely be biased when reviewing the evidence would you? Just goes to show how deep this faith over reason problem is.
Maybe it takes someone with little or no regard for the various sensitivities involved in criticising this so called "representitive of God" to actually have the balls to threaten such action. It's just a shame that so many people will cringe over the scandal and embarrasment it may cause that I imagine we won't get to see the pompous twat in a court of law over this whole affair.