Posted: Jul 24, 2013 4:25 pm
by dejuror
Ian Tattum wrote:
You make a very good argument here for Paul's letters agreeing in places with Acts and the Gospels, but that might lead to a variety of other conclusions!


One of those conclusions is that the Pauline Corpus was composed AFTER the Gospels and Acts of the Apostles.

It is extremely important to remember that the Jesus cult itself place Paul LAST.
It is extremely important to remember that a Pauline writer admitted he was LAST to be seen of Jesus.

The story of Paul by the Jesus cult writers is that Saul/Paul was blinded by a bright light and heard a voice of Jesus LONG after Jesus had already ascended in a cloud.

The story in Galatians is that when Paul was CALLED to preach the Gospel he did NOT confer with those BEFORE him. The Galatian writer even claimed he First went to Arabia.

Galatians 1
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, 16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. 18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.


There is no known tradition in the Jesus cult that the Pauline writers started the Jesus cult.

In fact, there was a tradition that the Pauline writer FIRST started to Persecute the Jesus cult.

1. Acts 8:1 KJV
And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles


2. Acts 26:11 KJV
And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme ; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities.


3. 1 Corinthians 15:9 KJV
For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.


4. Galatians 1:13 KJV
For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it


The Pauline Corpus is in agreement with Acts that Saul/Paul did NOT start the Jesus cult and was one of the FIRST who attempted to DESTROY the cult.

Now, Acts of the Apostles does NOT claim anywhere that the Pauline Corpus was composed up to the time of Festus or up to c 59-62 CE.

There are NO visions of Jesus by Saul/Paul in Acts.

There is not one reference to the Pauline Corpus in Acts.

Essentially, there were NO Pauline letters to Churches up to at least c 59-62 CE.

Up to the late 2nd century writers for the Jesus cult still did NOT know of or showed no influence by the Pauline Corpus.