Posted: Dec 15, 2013 1:31 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
CharlieM wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
CharlieM wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Yes I do. Again, where are you drawing these conclusions from?


I get inspiration and guidance from peole who are far wiser than I am. You seem to think that the same entity cannot be called by different names in different cultures. Why would you think this?

Where have I expressed this?
I know Krishna et all aren't names for your god because not only are their creation stories vastly different from the Abrahamic creation story, the commandments and particular idiosyncratuc dogma's of those religions are different from yours.
So you don't get to either disengenuously or ignorantly claim they are the same.
Now kindly stop making shit up about what my claims or motivaitons are. Ask if you're not sure, but stop with this nonsense.


How do you know who my "god" is?

By your repeated quoting and defense of the bible.

CharlieM wrote:If you look at the various creation stories to find fault and look for differences then that is what you will see.

Because they are filled flaws, falsehoods and differences.
That's not a matter of interpetation, it's matter of fact.

CharlieM wrote:But by doing this you will miss the essence of them, their essential nature will be hidden from you.

Still preachy bullocks.
There are no special clothes, the emperor is stark naked.


CharlieM wrote:Here are a few passages from various sources:

Exodus 3:
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.


Isaiah 48:
16...I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
from the time that it was, there AM I:
and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
17 Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer,
the Holy One of Israel;
I AM the Lord thy God which teacheth thee to profit,
which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.


John 8:
56"Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.” 57 “You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!” 58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I AM!”


Bhagavad Gita 10:
20 - I AM the Self, O Gudakesha, seated in the hearts of all beings! I am the beginning, the middle and also the end of all beings.


Revelations 22:
12 - And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 - I AM Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 - Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


The Upanishads,pt2:
4th Brahmana:
1. In the beginning this was Self alone, in the shape of a person (purusha). He looking round saw nothing but his Self. He first said, 'This is I;' therefore he became I by name. Therefore even now, if a man is asked, he first says, 'This is I,' and then pronounces the other name which he may have.


The Egyptian Book of the Dead
Plate X:
{23}..."I know the god who dwelleth therein."
(24) Who then is this? It is Osiris, or (as others say), Ra is his name, even Ra (25) the self-created.
"I AM the bennu bird (26) which is in Annu, and I AM the keeper of the volume of the book of things[2] which are and of things which shall be."


Tat Tvam Asi, you are that. In John 10.34, we read, "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"

Just because there are some similarities, doesn't prove they're all the same god.
Again they have wildly different creation stories and more importantly vastly different laws and commandments.

Your vacuous equivocation won't fool anyone CharlieM.