Posted: Dec 18, 2013 1:35 pm
by CharlieM
willhud9 wrote:
CharlieM wrote:In reply to Thomas Eshuis

willhud9 wrote:What is there to interpret differently? What context from elsewhere does he bring which holds any candle? He quotes Luke 17 as saying just in you. But that is just incorrect. ἐντός ὑμῶν is

literally within (of) you all.

I quoted Luke as saying, "...the kingdom of God is within you", I don't know where your "just in you" came from. You say "ἐντός ὑμῶν is literally within (of) you all". Where do you get the "all" from?

ὑμῶν is plural "you". It is the equivalent of you all.

Its good to have someone with a knowledge of Greek with whom I can discuss this.

You still haven't explained where the "just in you" came from.

Jesus saying that the Kingdom of God is within you all is exactly what I'd expect him to say. The spark of the divine is in every human being and so the Kingdom of God is in every human being in the same way that an oak tree is within every acorn waiting to be developed.

The Kingdom of God is within everyone be they Pharisees, Sadducees, thieves, saints, prostitutes or whatever.

From John 12.32: "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

Hippolytus wrote in his Refutation of All Heresies 5.7.20:
"[The Naassenes] speak...of a nature which is both hidden and revealed at the same time and which they call the thought-for kingdom of heaven which is in a human being. They transmit a tradition concerning this in the Gospel entitled "According to Thomas," which states expressly, "The one who seeks me will find me in children of seven years and older, for there, hidden in the fourteenth aeon, I am revealed."

The self-conscious ego is not apparent in babies but is revealed as a child develops.