Posted: May 09, 2015 2:18 am
iskander wrote:Leucius Charinus wrote:iskander wrote:Lies , forgery, violence ... is what sustains every religion and it begins with the scriptures and it goes on from there.
Down from the door (of war) where they all began these utterly corrupt church organisations slash industries (and their CEO's) have perpetuated themselves (business as usual) from antiquity by means of ....atrocities,
exiles,
tortures,
executions,
inquisitions,
book burning and
prohibition of books,
censorship, and (one of the most vital instruments of deceit)
literary forgery.
Why don't the ancient historians or Biblical Scholars of the 21st century mention any of this political history?
If there is anyone here who thinks that there is some "Divine Institute" at the origin of these church organisations slash industries now is the time to put up your hand with some evidence in it LOL
These events are sparingly mentioned by historians for a very good reason.
Religions are cruel because the faithful are obsessed with God and with salvation. This obsession with death often makes them oblivious to the pain involved in the process. The faithful should be offered a new God ; a God that is user friendly and gives generously.
Education? Critical thinking independent of dogma? IDK.
What is making an ugly God into a 'user friendly God'.? The Gospels say there is no need to fulfil the Mosaic Law. The Reformation says there is no need to please the pope.
What would now make an ugly God into a user friendly God?
A new religious operating stystem? Stoicism? I have read a number of articles which suggest that the gospel authors and Paul and Pseudo-Paul all borrowed freely from Seneca and the Stoic (and thus Platonist) philosophers. My take is that if we want to look at the God the Christians fabricated we should look at the raw materials they used.
One of these was the subversion of the Greek philosophical concept of the "guardian spirit" or "daimon". The Christians demonised this philosophical concept and charged that the Official Registered Corporate Monotheistic State Holy Spirit of Jesus was to replace the idea of the individual guardian spirit. We are no longer accountable to our own spirit. All beings were to be LEGALLY accountable to the Official Codex Holy spirit. This is of course complete and utter bullshit.
Here are some quotes from the Stoic philosophers to provide a general idea of the perversions made to these ideas by the Christian State Codex (NT Bible):
- How the Christians subverted the Greek "daimon" [ "guardian spirit"]
"It is man's duty to follow his daimon,
which reflects the cosmic will.
This requires us to love humanity in general
and to act altruistically"
~ Marcus Aurelius
"A daemon is assigned to every man
At birth, to be the leader of his life".
~ Menander, via Ammianus Marcellinus
"We should think of the most authoritative part of the Soul
as a Guardian given by God which lifts us to our heavenly home."
~ Plato
“Although it appears as if each person
has their own Daïmon or Higher Self,
the enlightened initiate discovers that
actually on the axial Pole of Being
there is one Daïmon shared by all,
a universal Self, which inhabits every being.
Each Soul is a part of the one Soul of God.
To know oneself therefore is to know God."
~ Valentinus
"Nevertheless he has placed by every man a guardian,
every man's Daimon, to whom he has committed the care of the man,
a guardian who never sleeps, is never deceived.
For to what better and more careful guardian could He have entrusted each of us?
When, then, you have shut the doors and made darkness within,
remember never to say that you are alone, for you are not;
but God is within, and your Daimon is within, and what need
have they of light to see what you are doing?
To this God you ought to swear an oath just as the soldiers do to Caesar. .....
~ Epictetus
"God is near you, he is with you, he is within you.
This is what I mean, Lucilius:
a holy spirit indwells within us,
one who marks our good and bad deeds,
and is our guardian.
As we treat this spirit, so are we treated by it.
Indeed, no man can be good without the help of God.
Can one rise superior to fortune unless God helps him to rise? "
~ Seneca, Epistle 41.
And finally to bring us up to the 20th century ....
The epitaph on the current headstone (arranged by his father) bears “James Douglas Morrison” and the Greek inscription KATA TON DAIMONA EAYTOY, literally meaning “According to his own daimon” and usually interpreted as “True to his own spirit”.
In the end iskander, IMVHO, at the end of the day it all comes back to how we look at ourselves and how comfortable (or otherwise) we are with our "spirit of life". If there is a divine spark it certainly does not reside in the corrupt church organisations or their "Holy Flaming Books" but rather it resides in living things.
But this is not the way the lords and masters of the feudalistic society saw things. It was expedient for them to perpetuate the Orwellian fabrication of the Church dominated structure which they had inherited, ultimately from Constantine.
Be well.