Posted: May 31, 2015 3:01 pm
by iskander
Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
iskander wrote:The Jewish Study Bible translates 2 sam1:10 as follows.
"So I stood over him and finish him off , for I knew that he would never rise from where he was lying, then I took .."


This complements 1 Sam 31 . In 1 Sam 31 , Saul falls on his sword and in 2 Sam 1 he begs the Amalekite to finish him off.


Its more likely the truth of Saul's death by his own hand was given to David.

The Amalekite was not the instrument of death in either case.


Yes, I agree with you.

As a story it is not difficult to unravel.
1 Sam 31:

3 And the battle went sore against Saul, and the archers hit him; and he was sore wounded of the archers. 4 Then said Saul unto his armour bearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and thrust me through, and abuse me. But his armour bearer would not; for he was sore afraid. Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it. 5 And when his armour bearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his sword, and died with him. 6 So Saul died, and his three sons, and his armour bearer, and all his men, that same day together


Saul killed himself as narrated. And the defeat and his death was ' witnessed' by Israel.

7 And when the men of Israel that were on the other side of the valley, and they that were on the other side Jordan, saw that the men of Israel fled, and that Saul and his sons were dead, they forsook the cities, and fled; and the Philistines came and dwelt in them.


The following day the enemy found the dead in mount Gilboa and spread the news widely.

8 And it came to pass on the morrow, when the Philistines came to strip the slain, that they found Saul and his three sons fallen in mount Gilboa. 9 And they cut off his head, and stripped off his armour, and sent into the land of the Philistines round about, to publish it in the house of their idols, and among the people.


What about the Amalekite? Why is such an implausible story there? The liar is an Amelekite, that is the explanation .
It impossible to believe that David was ignorant of the outcome of the battle and the death of Saul three days after the battle.