Posted: Jul 21, 2015 10:52 pm
Stein wrote:proudfootz wrote:Stein wrote:
Which text?! "James the brother of Jesus who is called Christ" which is Origen's direct quote from Antiquities in yet ANOTHER Origen commentary, words that you've conveniently ignored here, even though Iskander previously referenced this other Origen commentary already, on the page immediately preceding this one. That's which text!
Stein
That's not a direct quote - the word order is different. Even Origen doesn't make that claim.
For Pete's sake, we've been around this mulberry bush dozens of times already -- and you know damn well we have.
Which doesn't give you much excuse for lying about it.
A blatant ad hom, and you know it. "The brother of Jesus called Christ" IS the word order in both Antiquities and Origen, and you very well know it.
Stein
I've already quoted Origen and pointed out how nothing in Origen is like what is currently in Josephus - no James the Just, no destruction blamed on the death of James the Just, etc.
Obviously either Origen is wrong, Josephus is corrupt, or both.
As for that sentence fragment, observe:
James the brother of Jesus who is called Christ
from Origen versus present-day Josephus
the brother of Jesus, called Christ, James by name
The word order is not the same.
This has been explained several times before in this very thread.
Nothing 'ad hom' in pointing out the truth.