Posted: Mar 15, 2016 4:03 am
kyrani99 wrote:
As far as Jesus the prophet is concerned, I am giving you evidence.
You cannot give me evidence when there is none.
kyrani99 wrote:
Some of the words /teachings of Jesus haven't been tampered with. I would say most probably because those that sought to corrupt and exploit his teachings have no idea what they mean. A person who has had enlightenment experience, even if not very deep, would recognize them. They would realize that they could only have been uttered by someone with deep enlightenment, i.e., a prophet. So those words and teachings are evidence that Jesus or some prophet, what ever his name was,( eg the Gnostics have talked about a "Teacher of Righteousness"), existed.
What words of Jesus are you talking about?
Christian writings state their Jesus was born of a ghost.
In addition, the Teacher of Righteousness is a figure of Faith [Fiction].
kyrani99 wrote:
It is like for instance, say a great mathematician was supposed to have lived but there is no historical evidence. Some of the things the mathematician had said were written down. No one at the time understood what they meant but later on reviewing them by others, who are mathematicians recognize the incredible theories and proofs. Those theories and proofs indicate that a mathematician must have existed.
It is illogical to assume Jesus existed because mathematicians existed.
Your assumptions are not evidence.
kyrani99 wrote:
The other evidence is the recognition of Jesus, partly from his work/ teachings, but more so because there is a spiritual connection between those that are enlightened, and very strongly by those that are deeply enlightened, i.e., by another prophet. So Mohammad's recognition/ confirmation is evidence. Likewise, there are things that Mohammad said that again could only have been said by a prophet. These are statements that point directly to the Oneness. They are evidence.
Your claim about Mohammad is irrelevant and is not historical evidence of Jesus.
Mohammad was not a 1st century contemporary.
You must know that it is claimed Mohammad had a spiritual connection with God.
Your response is evidence that those who argue for an historical Jesus are in denial---you never ever had any historical evidence for Jesus and cannot or is unable to admit it.