Posted: Jan 13, 2017 10:09 pm
DavidMcC wrote:
Still a history-denier, eh? Too bad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_JesusThe term "historical Jesus" refers to attempts to "reconstruct the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth by critical historical methods," in "contrast to Christological definitions ('the dogmatic Christ') and other Christian accounts of Jesus (the 'Christ of faith')."[1] It also considers the historical and cultural context in which Jesus lived.[2][3][4]
The vast majority of scholars who write on the subjectx agree that Jesus existed,[5][6][7][8] although scholars differ about the beliefs and teachings of Jesus as well as the accuracy of the biblical accounts, and the only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[9][10][11][12] Historical Jesus scholars typically contend that he was a Galilean Jew living in a time of messianic and apocalyptic expectations.
Yes, there is
- a/ a history of belief that Jesus was a real entity
b/ a history of Jesus being narrated as having been an entity
but, beyond mere narratives, there is no proof that the character central to the books of the NT was a single, real person.
x "The vast majority of scholars who write on the subject" tend to be Christians.
There is a whole thread on this forum dedicated to discussing whether there was a historcal Jesus: the Historical Jesus thread. Perhaps you might like to discuss your (and others') smug assertions there.
DavidMcC wrote:
I have already backed up my claim that there were many little polico-religious groups/sects around at the time.
But that was not your primary claim.
- Your primary claim was [post #23] -
DavidMcC wrote:
This whole thread is missing the point. It is a historical fact that there were many little religious sects around in Roman-occupied Palestine, some of them aimed at resisting the Romans, so the early christians would have been one of them.
So what?2
This thread is about Christian Archaeology.
- 2 So what you could do is provide evidence of some archaeololgy that substantiates your claim.