Posted: Apr 21, 2017 7:21 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
Animavore wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
PensivePenny wrote:
Animavore wrote:Surely all Christians deny the OT, given that they all reject the Jewish interpretation?
Original sin. Lucifer/Satan as God's adversary. Hell etc. Seriously, where is all that stuff?


Nope, the Old Testament.

A warped interpretation. There's nothing in there about inherent sin

While the word sin isn't used, it's stated pretty clearly that all the descendants of Adam and Eve, ie humanity as a whole, were cursed by Yaweh for the crime committed by A&E.

Animavore wrote: and Lucifer and Satan aren't even the same being.

Not in the Torah, they have been combined in the bible.
They still have a basis in Judaism though and are not wholesale inventions of Christians.

Animavore wrote:Neither are "fallen angels" out to disobey God and lead us to follow in their rebellion.

Lucifer however, is presented, almost identical to Prometheus, as rebelling against the strictness/unfair laws of Yaweh.
And Satan is literally 'the hinderer' in Judaic texts.