Posted: Apr 21, 2017 7:37 pm
by PensivePenny
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
PensivePenny wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
PensivePenny wrote:

Hollywood?

Nope, the Old Testament.


Depends on which christian you ask ;)

Nope, both are expliticely named in the OT, although not in the exact way they're discussed in the NT.


Why do you insist on arguing the bible? I'm not. I'm merely pointing out that many many Christians will argue with you. Not me. I don't believe one way or the other or care.

But I am telling you for a fact... there are numerous people with compelling arguments arguing that satan and lucifer are not enemies of god. Rather, their mention in the bible refers to something entirely different (like ordinary men for example). Seriously, there are infinite ways to interpret the bible and all be equally compelling. That isn't to say that fevered dreams and wishful arguments can't be made, but I exclude them from the infinite number. I really have a hard time understanding how anyone can make any argument with certitude that any one interpretation is the only right one on any given point when the sole source of "evidence" is a collection of myths written by a myriad of men 4000 years ago. Any argument can be made, even the sanction of murder and rape, if your cherry-picker has a long enough reach.