Posted: Apr 21, 2017 10:43 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
PensivePenny wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Norms are red herring that you invented. I've never mentioned or discussed norms.

I didn't invent it. You used the word "orthodox" which if you knew the definition of the word, means "accepted beliefs."

Actually, orthodox has multiple usages, rather than one meaning.
One of them being a juxtaposition of liberal theists who adapt their religious beliefs to changing times.

PensivePenny wrote: Since "accepted beliefs" depends on the cultural group accepting those beliefs, they are essentially "norms." The point is to say "accepted beliefs" is ambiguous... accepted by whom? At what time? What qualifies as "accepted." It is absolutely NOT objective like you're wanting to make it. It's as ever changing and evolving as language, gene pools or any other social norms.

Except I have not said or used the term 'accepted beliefs'.
I've been talking about theists who follow their entire collection of religious scriptures vs those who dismiss entire chapters, books or testaments in part or entirely.