Posted: Apr 21, 2017 10:48 pm
PensivePenny wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:
All people have done is point out that Christians who dismiss the OT are cherry-picking the bible. IE choosing which bits they want to follow.
And no, not all Christians do that, especially not with the OT as a whole.
Well, we can argue what constitutes "cherry picking" now. All Christians cherry pick.
All dogs swim.
PensivePenny wrote: I understand what you're saying, what I'm trying to get YOU to see is that even if the "Nicene Creed" is the metric whereby you are defining "orthodox" or non-cherry picking christians,
Why do you keep introducing things into the conversation I haven't even alluded to, much less specifically discussed?
PensivePenny wrote: I'm trying to show you that not all christians believe and accept the Nicene creed. Not the metric you want to use? Fine. Choose one. They all exclude some "norm" or "orthodox" for another culturally accepted form of "Christianity." It is wholly relative to the culture and the accepted set of beliefs chosen to define it. Purely subjective. Study how the Nicene Creed came about. You'll see how each facet of it only exists at the exclusion of some other belief. They cherry picked that particular tenet. So yeah... they all DO cherry pick.
You're conflating cherry-picking with (re)interpation.
And again, I'm talking about people who follow their entire religious scriptures (however interpeted) and those who dismiss parts or even entire books from it.
Not all theists, nor Christians, do the latter.
PensivePenny wrote:
Again, the person who raised the whole No True Christian thing, is you, not me.
I never, at any point, suggested or claimed, cherry-picking Christians aren't (true) Christians.
Review the thread. You were the first person to write "No true Christian." I did write "no true scotsman" in reference to something said by theropod.
Again a distinction without difference. You're the one who brought No True Scotsman into the discussion.
The first time I mentioned it was when I was talking about apologists who use that argument.
At no point did I imply or state that there is such a thing as the True Christian.