Posted: Apr 23, 2017 10:58 am
by Thomas Eshuis
proudfootz wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
proudfootz wrote:On the topic of Original Sin I just Googled it and this site popped up supposedly showing all the verses from the Jewish scripture and the 'new testament' supposedly referring to it.

There is really not a single verse that seems to lay out the doctrine that I understood Original Sin to stand for - that I inherited guilt from A&E - in any of the verses.

Indeed, some of the verses seem to oppose that idea:

"The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. "

Lots of stuff about how being flesh and blood leads to sinfulness, but it was supposedly God who is responsible for that state of affairs.

Again, the OT doesn't call it a sin but a curse, but the story is the same: God cursed Adam and Eve and all their descendants and had to kill Jesus/himself, to create a loophole out of the curse.


I see. A curse is a horse of a different color. Not what they taught at the christian school I attended.

Doing a little more digging, it would appear this 'curse' idea isn't supported by the OT the way Jews understand it

Of course they don't, otherwise they'd be Christians.
The point is that Christians believe this and therefore cannot dismis the entire OT out of hand.