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Leucius Charinus wrote:

MS2 wrote:

Leucius Charinus wrote:I am assuming we are discussing specific evidence that you claim substantiates the historicity of the persecution by Diocletian.

Ha ha. No, it's archaeology which the archaeologists say is as as they have described. I am comfortable with accepting their judgement.

You don't seem to be too comfortable with people questioning the history of the evidence, how these evaluations were formed, and the extent to which the orthodox church was involved.

I'm very comfortable with it, it's what the archaeologists and historians do all the time.
If you are suggesting that is what you are doing, on the other hand, it seems to me your 'questioning' actually amounts to little more than trawling the internet for whatever shit you can find and throwing it in the hope it will stick

I know perfectly well that there will be no substantiating anything in your eyes since all evidence is tainted by the Great Conspiracy.

Are you telling me that the later 4th century Nicene Christian church did not conspired to inaugurate the invention of Christian hagiography, the veneration of the Christian Saints and Christian Martyrs, and the trading of bones and relics between the Christian churches?

Thanks for proving my point

Are those truly gruesome tales about the death of the Christian martyrs being thrown to the lions in the coliseum all true?

Wow.

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(Also, you really do specialise in loaded questions don't you?!)

Ante Pacem: archaeological evidence of church life before Constantine
-- by Graydon F. Snyder

"The real founders of the science of early Christian archaeology came in the 19th century:
Giuseppe Marchi (1795-1860) and Giovanni de Rossi (1822-1894)...[the latter] published
between 1857 and 1861 the first volume of "Inscriptiones christianae urbis Romae". Pope
Pius IX moved beyond collecting by appointing in 1852 a commission - "Commissione de
archaelogia sacra" - that would be responsible for all early Christian remains."

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