Posted: Feb 27, 2018 12:36 am
by John Platko
BlackBart wrote:
John Platko wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Which, once again, was appropriated from the Romans.

It might have gone the way of Lupercalia if it wasnt for the church.

No real reason to conclude that. If the 'church' didn't exist, festivals like Yule and Saturnalia would probably have carried on - humans do like an excuse for a party. We might have got to celebrate both of them.
Further, if we can speculate Lupercalia died out, we can just as easily speculate it morphed into Valentine's day.


English 18th-century antiquarians Alban Butler and Francis Douce, noting the obscurity of Saint Valentine's identity, suggested that Valentine's Day was created as an attempt to supersede the pagan holiday of Lupercalia (mid-February in Rome). This idea has lately been dismissed by other researchers, such as Professor Jack B. Oruch of the University of Kansas, Henry Ansgar Kelly of the University of California, Los Angeles[28] and Associate Professor Michael Matthew Kaylor of the Masaryk University.[29] Many of the current legends that characterize Saint Valentine were invented in the 14th century in England, notably by Geoffrey Chaucer and his circle, when the feast day of February 14 first became associated with romantic love.[

And of course, none of that alters the fact that Christians hijacked Christmas from elsewhere.

Somebody else born in a manger?