Posted: Nov 26, 2018 4:33 pm
by SafeAsMilk
Wortfish wrote:
Animavore wrote:
So if God isn't powerless against the forces of nature then why won't he do anything about the negative effects of natural selection?
Also if he is the author of the forces of nature, and you say that one of those forces - natural selection - is to blame for leukaemia, then how is God not to blame?

No. God is not powerless but neither is he free to obstruct the natural order that he has created.

If he isn't free to do anything about it, then he IS powerless against the forces of nature. You can't have it both ways.

Everything falls within his providential plan, and this included natural disasters and diseases.

So everything bad that happens, he's planned. Too bad he didn't plan better!

My point is that he created everything good and whole, but the inherent imperfection in Nature is to blame for much of the suffering we experience, including our sinful ways.

This is a lazy way to get out of admitting that everything isn't actually good, as is observably the case. If nature is inherently imperfect, and god made it that way, then he is responsible for it. You can only assume the creator of the universe could have made it any way they wanted, but they chose to make it this way, so to blame it on anything other than the creator is balls-out ridiculous.