Posted: Jun 27, 2019 3:29 am
Svartalf wrote:
Well, I don't know in what language Peter I was initially composed, even if the earliest versions we have are in Koine Greek... the definintion of a christian entails believing that Jesus was Messiah, the anointed one (chrestos) of the LOrd... maybe the word took some time to crystallize, but remember, I'm the guy who believes chrestians were an identified group by 64 AD and the Great Neronian fire.
You seem not to be well informed.
You appear not to realise that so-called Christians writers admit that Christians did not call themselves ChrEstians and that the word was derived from the Greek word Christos meaning anointed--never chrestos.
In fact in the Apology attributed Tertullian the supposed Christian writer was highly annoyed that Christians were called Chrestians.
The Apology attributed to Tertullian
But Christian, so far as the meaning of the word is concerned, is derived from anointing. Yes, and even when it is wrongly pronounced by you Chrestianus (for you do not even know accurately the name you hate)...
No-one could have been called Christian [follower of the Christ] up to at least c 130 CE. The people in the Roman Empire, including the Jews, never knew, never heard of and never saw anyone who was the Jewish Messiah in the time of Tiberius. There was no person called the Jewish Messiah until perhaps Simon Barcochebas in the 2nd century.
The writers Josephus, Tacitus and Suetonius admitted that the Jews expected their Messianic rulers no earlier than c 66-70 CE and that Vespasian was the Messiah after he defeated the Jews c 70 CE.