Posted: Jun 27, 2019 10:46 am
by dejuror
Svartalf wrote:Vespasian the Messiah? no way. He did precisely the reverse of what Mashiach is expected to accomplish... As I keep saying, the person who historically is the closest to the expected Messiah is David Ben Gourion.

Again, you appear to be not well informed.

You seem not to know that writers who lived in the 1st century wrote that Vespasian was believed to be the Messianic ruler predicted in Hebrew Scripture.

Josephus, Tacitus and Suetonius who all lived in the 1st century knew nothing and wrote nothing about a Jewish Messiah called Jesus of Nazareth.
Examine Wars of the Jews attributed to Josephus.
http://sacred-texts.com/jud/josephus/war-6.htm
Wars of the Jews 6
But now, what did the most elevate them in undertaking this war, was an ambiguous oracle that was also found in their sacred writings, how," about that time, one from their country should become governor of the habitable earth." The Jews took this prediction to belong to themselves in particular, and many of the wise men were thereby deceived in their determination. Now this oracle certainly denoted the government of Vespasian, who was appointed emperor in Judea....


There was never ever any Jewish Messiah in the 1st century.

Jesus of Nazareth the Jewish Messiah was total fiction.