Posted: Jun 28, 2019 1:55 am
by dejuror
Svartalf wrote:the Jewish traitor Flavius Josephus wrote his books to curry favor with Vespasian and Titus, I don't see whatother authors could have written that. I certainly did not notice such a qualification in Suetonius' Life of Vespasian, and Tacitus is full of later additions by bad authors.


I am glad that you claim that Josephus was a Jewish traitor who wrote his books to curry favor with Vespasian and Titus. Well, based on your claim Josephus could not have written that Jesus was the Messiah when he had already claimed that Vespasian was the Messianic ruler and Savior.

Examine Wars of the Jews 7.4.1
And as this good-will to Vespasian was universal, those that enjoyed any remarkable dignities could not have patience enough to stay in Rome, but made haste to meet him at a very great distance from it; nay, indeed, none of the rest could endure the delay of seeing him, but did all pour out of the city in such crowds, and were so universally possessed with the opinion that it was easier and better for them to go out than to stay there, that this was the very first time that the city joyfully perceived itself almost empty of its citizens; for those that staid within were fewer than those that went out.

But as soon as the news was come that he was hard by, and those that had met him at first related with what good humor he received every one that came to him, then it was that the whole multitude that had remained in the city, with their wives and children, came into the road, and waited for him there; and for those whom he passed by, they made all sorts of acclamations, on account of the joy they had to see him, and the pleasantness of his countenance, and styled him their Benefactor and Savior.......


If Josephus the supposed Jewish traitor wrote his books to curry favor with Roman Emperors then Antiquities of the Jews 18.3.3 and 20.9.1 must be forgeries.

Josephus would have been executed, probably had his head cut off, if he claimed and wrote Vespasian was indeed the Benefactor, the Messiah and Savior while simultaneously publicly stating it was a dead crucified Jew called Jesus who was the Messiah.

Jesus the Messiah never ever had any history was a product of forgeries and fiction.