Posted: Mar 14, 2020 8:54 pm
by Nevets
This argument is an offshoot of another thread, where it was claimed by a person, that i assume, ironically does not believe in Jesus, that the Greek language pre-dates it's written records, dating approximately 1500BC, and was instead spread through Oral dialect, with no actual written records.

I personally believe this claim, to either, be almost insignifant in the effect of language evolution, or, just a complete fantasy and fairytale, almost tantamount to Jesus belief.

Here is where it says Greek language evolved from Indo-European, roughly 3,500 years ago, from today

Greek (Modern Greek: ελληνικά, elliniká) is an independent branch of the Indo-European family of languages, native to Greece, Cyprus, Albania and other parts of the Eastern Mediterranean and the Black Sea. It has the longest documented history of any living Indo-European language, spanning at least 3,500 years of written records. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language


The Septuagint is the Greek old testament

The Septuagint is the earliest extant Koine Greek translation of books from the Hebrew Bible, various biblical apocrypha, and deuterocanonical books. The first five books of the Hebrew Bible, known as the Torah or the Pentateuch, were translated in the mid-3rd century BCE; they did not survive as original translation texts, however, except as rare fragments. The remaining books of the Greek Old Testament are presumably translations from 200 BCE to 50 CE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint


In legend, it is claimed that the Greek old Testament was written by 72 Hewbrew scholars, each put in to 72 different chambers, without knowing about the presence of eachother, nor, what they were being put in a chamber for, and they were then asked to retranslate their Hewbrew scriptures in to Greek, for Ptolomy, and it is alleged, that all 72 translations corresponded with eachothers.

King Ptolemy once gathered 72 Elders. He placed them in 72 chambers, each of them in a separate one, without revealing to them why they were summoned. He entered each one's room and said: "Write for me the Torah of Moshe, your teacher". God put it in the heart of each one to translate identically as all the others did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint#Jewish_legend


Also, foreseeing the type of argument i will receive, it will likely be along the lines of my source does not state that they were Hebrew scholars. But yes, it does.

According to the legend, seventy-two Jewish scholars were asked by Ptolemy II Philadelphus, the Greek king of Egypt, to translate the Torah from Biblical Hebrew to Greek for inclusion in the Library of Alexandria.[13] This narrative is found in the pseudepigraphic Letter of Aristeas to his brother Philocrates,[14] and is repeated by Philo of Alexandria, Josephus (in Antiquities of the Jews),[15] and by later sources (including Augustine of Hippo).[16] It is also found in the Tractate Megillah of the Babylonian Talmud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint#Jewish_legend


It is my accusation that to blindly believe that there was a Greek language that predated Greek written records, is tantamount to political latiniasation, and Hermes worship, the Greek God of Language

Hermes was the ancient Greek god of trade, wealth, luck, fertility, animal husbandry, sleep, language, thieves, and travel https://www.ancient.eu/Hermes/


Now, my challenge to those that "believe" the Greeks had a language that is not recorded, pre 2000BC, is to come out and "prove" this, otherwise the belief seems to be equally as big a fairytale as actual Septuagint & Jesus belief.