Posted: Dec 08, 2021 12:50 pm
by dejuror
Leucius Charinus wrote:
dejuror wrote:I have read the essay referenced in the OP and have not found any actual evidence to defend a 4th century "terminus ad quem" for Christian origins.

Arguing that Carrier has made false claims about dating by paleography or c-14 does not relieve you from presenting actual credible historical evidence for your 4th century Christian origin hypothesis.


Here is the final paragraph from the essay:

    This defence of a 4th century terminus ad quem for Christian origins is not a hypothesis that
    Christianity was invented out of whole cloth in the 4th century. It represents a study showing
    that there is insufficient citable historical evidence to comprehensively refute such a latest
    possible date.
    The 1st century mainstream theory relies on the existence of theoretical
    manuscripts and on giving the church industry the benefit of any doubt. There is no need for
    that any more.


There is in fact insufficient evidence to defend a 4th century terminus ad quem for Christian origins regardless of the baseless argument that Christianity was initiated before c 70 CE or before the fall of Jewish Temple in the 1st century.