Posted: Jan 05, 2023 11:45 pm
by Leucius Charinus
proudfootz wrote:
dogsgod wrote:
Stein wrote:
THWOTH wrote:We'll just have to wait for the second coming and ask him.

Fortunately, today we have modern methods guided by academic standards and modern scholarship, so we don't have to wait for revelation and an unlikely afterlife to address any questions. Modern specialists weighing the data rigorously and establishing relative likelihoods professionally, rather than dogmatizing conspiratorial delusions, can proceed in arriving at a balanced conclusion reflecting the preponderance of data rather than crank preferences that make amateurs and fakes feel good.

You're welcome.


If only NT scholarship would get on board.

That would undermine the whole Jesus Industrial Complex forcing a lot of people to seek real jobs.

Roman political propaganda in the New Testament
supports the whole Jesus Industrial Complex

(1) Pay tax to Caesar;

(2) Give Caesar whatever TF he asks for;

(3) In all Judea it is the centurion who has greatest faith;

(4) Go the extra mile carrying the Roman soldier's pack;

(5) Be compliant and turn the other cheek;

(6) Support the Roman military industrial complex and go out and buy a sword (or two);

(7) Serious business. Great fear over the management of money, property and tithing for the church industry (Acts 5.1-11) [1]

(8) the massive proliferation of the abbreviation of "sacred names" (nomina sacra) is a characteristic which is neither Jewish or Greek, but distinctively Roman;

(9) Codex media which becomes popular in the 4th century was used for the earliest physical Christian manuscripts. This was very expensive exercise (The Roman Martial mentions?)

(10) Greek "episkopos" (bishop) also means "spy". (particularly relevant in the 4th century)

(11) SETTING: NT supposedly written within the Roman empire (Palestine) - ruled by Rome.

(12) Christianos: Etymology. The Greek word Χριστιανός (Christianos), meaning "follower of Christ", comes from Χριστός (Christos), meaning "anointed one", with an adjectival ending borrowed from Latin to denote adhering to, or even belonging to, as in slave ownership.

(13) Obsessive COPY/PASTE from greek LXX to greek NT (literary school) ??

(14) Earliest references to "Christians" (excluding TF) are (supposedly) all Roman = emperor Trajan, statesman Pliny, historian Tacitus

(15) Pray for Romans ("your enemies") on your way to them watching you being fed to the lions

(16) Matt 6:6 - "How to Pray"? Jesus borrows instructions from Roman Stoic philosophy - Epictetus. [2]

(17) Christ? CHI RHO on Greek inscriptions used as an abbreviation of ἑκατόνταρχος ‎(centurion);

(18) Mark 15:39 (NIV) - It was the astute Centurion who was first person on planet Earth to wake up to the fact that they'd just snuffed out the son of god. (And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, saw how he died, he said, “Surely this man was the Son of God!”)

(19) Rom 13 - "People should be subject to the government - which is appointed by God.

(20) Rom 13 - "Obey these agents of God on earth". (Romans 13 gives rise to the "Divine Right of Kings". The first example of a ruler using this "Divine Right" was given as Louis XIV. But is there any reason to pass over the divine rule of the Emperor Constantine? )